原文：[reddit]The fate of all Celepogeans chapter 34+
作者：XapySlenderman
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以下翻譯將會以中英對照
並不會逐字逐句的精確翻譯，會做一些用詞的修改
如有錯譯再跟我說，感謝。
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So we all know that building celepogeans isa very expensive thing. So knowing how everyone of those celepogeans is usedFOR PVE could be essential info while building em.
我們都知道養神魔角是一筆很大的資源投入，
所以了解這些神魔角在PVE的用途有助於我們該選擇什麼角色投資。
I have delayed this for atleast 4-5 monthsas I wanted opinions of several other people. So after talking to severalwhales, guide makers, experienced players, this is the conclusion of how everycelepogean works and their priority of building.
為這篇文我大概準備了4-5個月，我想要獲得多一點人的看法
因此我詢問了許多有經驗的玩家、課長跟遊戲攻略撰寫者，
並寫成這篇文章，這篇文章會介紹各個神魔角色的組隊跟功能
Note:All the people I talked to hadslightly different opinions about this but with predictions for the fate andpotential of all these heroes with newer heroes is discussed below.
注意：每個玩家都有自己不同的看法，下面將分別討論所有這些神魔英雄以及加入新英雄後的搭配狀況。
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Athalia:
阿塔莉亞/天使
Contrary to popular belief she is actuallymore useful that Ezizh for multiple stage battles. While Ezizh is definetlybetter than Athalia overall and Ezizh should always be built before her, herutility is nothing to ignore.
普遍認為且事實上來說埃茲比較全面，練阿塔之前應該先練埃茲
但阿塔比埃茲在推圖上好用很多，不應該被忽視
While Ezizh is irreplaceble in the Godcomp, the god comp itself is a very expensive and a risky thing to use for 5stage team or higher. Even with just using Twins, Rowan and Ezizh in 1 team,thats a lot of your supports used in 1 team leaving the other 4 significantlyweaker. (There are rare exceptions where God comp is used in 5 stage or higherteams, But they are are rare for a reason)
雖然埃茲在神魔國家隊是不可或缺的要角，
但在後期需要五支隊伍推圖的時候神魔國家隊就不那麼常被使用
因為神魔國家隊的組成會在一個隊伍中使用很多強力的輔助角
(像是雙子羅萬埃茲)
這會卡到你其他四個隊伍的輔助使用
Now Ezizh isn’t useless everywhere exceptGod comp. But his utility is significantly lower than Athalia’s utility.
雖然埃茲在神魔國家隊以外還是有用，但比起阿塔莉亞單角可用來說
埃茲比較吃隊伍組成
Common question:
問
But Ezizh has both energy regen, hypobuff,ult lock and is really tanky with +9 FI and +30 SI while Athalia only hasher initial dive. So whats making Ezizh worse?
埃茲可以回能、有種族加成、有減傷、有控制(封招)、9紅傢具跟30專會很坦，
而阿塔給團隊的效益很低，為什麼會說埃茲比較遜色?
Answer:
答
While it is true that Ezizh has a lot ofusage but when even Arthur barely survives at minimum power at those levels,don’t expect Ezizh to last long. If he can’t live he can’t provide any buffexcept energy regen.
雖然埃茲團隊效益很好
但當後期連亞瑟都撐不住了，更不要想埃茲有辦法活在場上
當他死了就沒辦法提供其他能力，只剩下被動回能
Now this energy is abused in Thoran cheeseand since Ezizh can die without worries, that opens up 1 slot of extra strengthgear for some other Hero. But excluding God comp, Thoran cheese and match upspecific usages of Ezizh, there isn’t much more.
As for Athalia, she has her initial dive,energy lock due to the dive, good cc and decent damage.What makes her better isher ability to be put in any team and function well.
現在很常在骨王一刀流裡面看到埃茲當作活的號角被使用
在一刀流隊伍裡面埃茲死了也沒差，但後期埃茲也就只能這麼使用了
而反觀阿塔莉亞的天降、控制、傷害等等，
在遊戲的大後期還是能有穩定且良好的發揮，很適合隨便塞進隊伍里。
She can be put the following common comps:
建議組隊：
•Gwyneth team •Celetials and wilder•Celetials and graveborn •Match up specific
1.光弓 2.半神+綠裔 3.半神+亡靈 4.其他
In the Gwyneth Team Athalia replaces Ukyo’utility. Ukyo pushes the frontline enemy but keeps them stunned for the longesttime compared to Esteilda or Hendrik.
橘又京在光弓隊可以推線跟暈，比女騎跟木盾做的更好。阿塔可以取代橘又京的位置。
Athalia+ Estrilda perform the same thingUkyo can do. But why is this essential you may ask?
阿塔+女騎可以做到跟橘子一樣的事，這件事為什麼重要?
Well because Antandra exists. Her spearskill 1 shots Gwyneth and activates after 8 seconds(Can’t be dodged orinterrupted) but if she was already in a state of cc and the 8 seconds pass,she will trigger her skill only after the cc has ended. Hence Athalia buysGwyneth enough time to Kill Atanadra before she throws her Spear. Estrildabehind Athalia ensures that Athalia knocks Antandra toward’s Gwyn’s Arrows.
因為豹女。豹女的投茅會在戰鬥開始的八秒發動，無法閃避跟打斷，
光弓不能被這招射臉。
但如果8秒時豹女被控中，會等到控制結束才丟茅，
阿塔跟女騎的交互控制可以讓光弓有時間在投茅之前控到或殺掉豹女
Cele graveborn and Cele wilder are verysimilar in that they use variations of (Orthros, Talene, Wu kong, Flora andAthalia) with Ferael, Nara or Tasi etc.
The comp works well but lacks cc which iswhat Athalia brings.
半神綠裔隊跟半神亡靈隊相似
阿塔可以補上這些隊伍缺少的控制技能
She also can be used in any team and workdecently when targeting the right enemy. Don’t make her dive on a Tasi orFerael…
反正阿塔很萬用，可以塞在任何隊伍裡面針對需要針對的敵人
但不要讓他跳到蝴蝶或骨弓身上
Enemy Solise is a serious bitch from 34+and you will appreciate how good Athalia is when is used against mages andcorrect enemies. Her 5 second energy lock is invaluable for this purpose.
34章之後登場的九尾是個○子，這正適合阿塔莉亞出來針對
阿塔的鎖能量很適合用來對付這種○掰的法師敵人
Ezizh:
埃茲
His main utility is being part of theenergy cycle( Ezizh, Rowan and Twins)
能量隊的要員(埃茲、羅萬、雙子)
This makes him irreplaceable for 1 stagebattles like King’s Tower.
在只需要一隊的場合像是王座之塔，埃茲具有不可替代性
While Ezizh is irreplaceble in the Godcomp, the god comp itself is a very expensive and a risky thing to use for 5stage team or higher. Even with just using Twins, Rowan and Ezizh in 1 team,thats a lot of your supports used in 1 team leaving the other 4 significantlyweaker. (There are rare exceptions where God comp is used in 5 stage or higherteams, But they are are rare for a reason).
雖然埃茲在神魔國家隊是不可或缺的要角，
但在後期需要五支隊伍推圖的時候神魔國家隊就不那麼常被使用
因為神魔國家隊的組成會在一個隊伍中使用很多強力的輔助角
(像是雙子羅萬埃茲)
這會卡到你其他四個隊伍的輔助使用
He himself isn’t tanky enough even with +30SI and +9 FI at minimum power at these later chapters.
他本身也不夠坦，在後期即使有+30專跟9紅傢具也一樣不夠硬
His mainutilities are:
主要使用方式
•Energy Cycle with any other 2 heroes•Thoran cheese •Match up specific
1.能量隊 2.骨王一刀流 3.特殊組隊
His energy after death is abused in Thorancheese and since Ezizh can die without worries, that opens up 1 slot of extrastrength gear for some other Hero.
現在很常在骨王一刀流裡面看到埃茲當作活的號角被使用
在一刀流隊伍裡面埃茲死了也沒差，就可以解放一些裝備或神器給其他隊伍
As for match up spefic interactions, he canwork with any team ranging from Wilder and mauler to teams with celestials andHypogeans. His hypo buff with another Hypo is also a very good boost.
跟蠻血跟綠裔跟半神跟惡魔組隊都強
跟其他惡魔組隊的帶來的種族加成也很棒
His feeble mind is very good to changehero’s postions but more importantly interrupts their current skills(Like Tasibanish).
精神支配可以破壞對面陣形，更重要是可以打斷敵人技能(像是塔西放逐)
It all relies on how long he can survive ashe is still quite vulnerable to mages.
以上全部都創建在他可以活多久，因為埃茲很脆，尤其是對上法師
Wu kong:
悟空
Wu kong is quite interesting as he becomesquite op with his +30SI and +3 FI. Those 2 skills guarentee that he can’t bebursted easily and his damage on long battles is similar to Khazard’s damage.
悟空的30專跟3紅傢具讓他變得挺OP的
他更容易開到大而且當戰鬥時間他常時他的傷害很可觀，可比冰魔
Wu kong is crazy good for his distractionsand his damage is nothing to laugh at. He fits in several teams like:
悟空很棒，他可以吸引敵方火力且又能造成良好輸出，可以放進很多隊伍
Cele wilder: Wu kong with cc or heals forthe clones. He is mostly used as either the carry or tank in this set up.
半神綠裔：有控跟分身，在隊伍中又坦又痛
Cele graveborn: Mostly used as a tank thandps in this one.
半神亡靈：大多數當坦使用
Match up specific:Wu kong can also fit intomany other teams but always make sure to use him in stall teams or slow teams.
其他組法：悟空也相當萬用，但他不適合節奏太快的隊伍
He doesn’t do well against teams with heavyinvade, cc or burst comps as he still relies on his team for most of the battleand is kind of a secondary unit excluding some comps.
他在應付速攻、控制、刺客陣形表現較差，也是蠻吃組隊的一隻英雄，
對某些隊伍來說他是一個二線角
Flora:
春姑
She is in the lower category of celepogeansbut that doesn’t mesn she is bad.
She has usage in any team that can surviveas a 4v5 teams.
Like Thoran cheese, or stall comps withOrthros,Mezoth and Talene etc.
Any enemy team with non burst heroes is agood matchup for her as she can slowly kill em without having to worry abouther team getting 1 shot.
便宜的半神並不代表它是一個爛角
如果隊友可以4打5不會被秒殺就可以放春姑
像是骨王一刀流或是一些有時神、吞魔、火鳥之類的隊伍
很適合在對面沒有加速型敵人的場合出來，
當隊伍不會被秒殺就可以靠尿尿慢慢磨死對面
Twins:
雙子
The second best celepogean in the game…
There really isn’t much to say. Put em inany team and see them dominate. Using them in teams where their constant hastecan be abused is good for them.
They are stall buffers while Lyca is aburst buffer.
So using Twins in build up teams is thebest use for them. Like using em with build up carries like Talene or Saurus.
Twins also must always have atleast 1 goodhealer in their team for them to perform decently.
遊戲中次好的神魔角
沒什麼好說的，放進隊伍裡面看他們帶隊演出就對了
他們需要一點時間才能跳舞加速(兔弓就是開場加速)，
所以可以放進一些帶有控制的隊伍，配合需要暖機的英雄，像是火鳥或索羅斯
另外雙子還需要一個很好的補，防止他們暴斃
Talene:
火鳥
Many people say she is over hyped causepeople expected her to be put in any team and insta win…
很多人說他過譽，因為他們希望任何隊放進他就可以直接獲勝
But people understand Talene’s true valuefrom chapter 31+ where she is a second Rowan.
Not having Talene means no progress beyondchapter 31.Always build her first!
She fits in any team ranging from God compto wilders to Orthros comps to Gwyneth or Daimon to even Thoran cheese comps.
31章之後可以展現他的真正價值，他就像是第二個羅萬般萬用
沒有火鳥你在31章很難繼續前進
絕對要先養他!他適合任何的組隊，神魔國家隊、綠裔隊、時神隊、光弓隊、呆萌隊，甚至骨王隊都可以放
Orthros:
時神
Another celetial who is irreplaceable inmany comps.
His most important abilities are his +30SIand +3 FI and Inertia skill. Without them he isn’t good. So abusing them is priority.
So any team that groups up enemies(Eironncomps), requires 1 hero to be energy locked like a Lucius or Brutus, stallcomps and Talene comps are where he works.
Stall and Talene comps (Like celegravebornor celewilders) rely on Talene and Orthros living till the end and abusingOrthros’s +3 FI while Talene kills all and keeps Orthros alive.
His SI cirlce ensures he can’t bursted byany melee hero meaning a higher change he sirvives the 45 seconds and becomesinvincible.
But is he really required? Yes! He ismandatory for most Celestial comps or stall comps as without him no other herocan replace his unique abilities.
又是一個可以作為核心來組隊的半神
他需要30專跟3紅傢具，有缺就用不起來
當你的組隊需要控住對面回能開大(像埃隆隊遇到光盾或是獅子)就可以上時神
時神在帶控制的隊伍(半神綠、半神亡)及火鳥隊伍適性良好
火鳥跟時神可以幫助隊伍生存到最後，
3紅傢具時火鳥可以大殺四方並維持時神的血量
他的專武可以剋制近身的近戰敵人，幫助他活過45秒開無敵
真的需要時神嗎?需要!
因為他在半神隊或是偏控制的隊伍他的存在都有不可替代性
Mehira:
魅魔
She is Tasi 2.0
She gives energy and haste increase insteadof Banish by Tasi.
Both have 5 second (Sleep or charm)
Tanky(Bat lives or Teleport)
Would you like 2 Tasi to use in your comps?Then Mehira is essential to build. She is more consistant for God comp in pveand just like Tasi can be put any team that needs the cc and be very useful.
Can be used in any team ranging from Daimoncomps to God comp or wilder comps etc.
Just don’t put her against invade heavyteams
蝴蝶2.0
給能量跟加速，但沒有放逐
控制技能一樣有5秒(魅惑VS睡眠)
一樣坦(蝙蝠VS閃現)
你有想要用蝴蝶但蝴蝶只有一支的場合嗎?練魅魔吧!
任何隊伍他都能待
但不適合對付坦型耐久隊伍
Zolrath:
時魔
He is mainly a utility based hero in pve.
His signature is useless for pve as he isnever higher health than his enemies but it does kill brutus really fast.
pve沒有異能
專武在pve沒用 因為他血不可能比對面高
但他殺獅子很快啦(+30破免疫)
His utility comes from his +3 FI and a freereset.
It is usually very consistent for him todie last and give a free restart.
但3紅傢具跟重製戰場很棒
他很容易是最後一個死掉的，可以輕易重置戰局
Why is a free restart good? Well because itmight have been team 5 and you finally reached it after hours so a second tryat it can be crucial. And Zolrath can usually burst the entire enemy team inseconds if he uses Deva vu after 30-50 seconds.
His initial slow down works like Lyca 2.0but instead of speeding up allies, he slows down enemies and we all know how 1lyca haste can win us a game.
He works in many team but mainly used withother hypogeans, graveborn/Wilders and celetials.He works great in semi- burstor full stall comps in camapign.
He can do very good in King’s tower withthe full Burst comp of Eironn, Gwyn, Lorsan, Lyca and Zolrath and sometimes itsthe best team for 600+ Towers instead of God comp or Daimon comp.
重置戰局為什魔爽? 如果通關需要五隊，你可能花好幾個小時才打到第五隊
把時魔放在第五隊時能重置戰局可以給你省下很多次RE的次數
而且當永劫累積了30-50秒後發動了輪迴後的時魔可以隊敵人造成大量傷害
3紅傢具帶來的緩進場就像是兔弓的加速那種狀況，
相信大家都有體驗過兔子跳一下的加速如何幫你贏下整局，
時魔的緩進場也有類似的效果
他可以進很多隊伍，主要是用在惡魔組、亡靈/綠裔和半神隊
他在半速攻或是全控制隊伍表現不錯
600層以上的王座之塔埃隆、光弓、洛桑、萊卡、時魔組成的全加速星爆隊有時候表現比神魔國家或是戴蒙隊還好
Mezoth and Khazard:
吞吞跟冰魔
Both Mezoth and Khazard are good heroes butmostly aren’t essential.
他們不差，但不是必需品
Before people couldn’t finish chap 33without all celepogeans but with newer op heroes like Saurus and Daimon, itbecomes possible to do 33 without em.
以前的玩家沒有所有的神魔很難完成33章
但現在有更op的新英雄像是蜥蜴或是呆萌，
現在沒有冰魔跟吞吞也有可能可以通關33章了
Lilith has always and always will releasemore carries than supports or Tanks. And while a team can do with 1 or 2 carriesyou require 3-4 tanks/supports
Hence Mezoth has more utility than Khazardas a very thick tank (Not that thick though).
黑心魅魔莉莉絲推出的新英雄CARRY居多，輔助跟坦是比較少的
通常是1-2個主輸出帶3-4個快樂夥伴
所以吞吞作為坦克可能更有機會出場
He can tank and cc so there isn’t muchstrategy to use him.
But he is Orthros 2.0
Orthros has cc and tanky overtime
吞吞可以坦可以控卻沒有太常被使用
因為他跟時神相似，時神也有控制技能，且坦度會隨時間提升
While Meozth has cc and is insanely tankyinitially which becomes weaker overtime so he works better with faster compswith semi-burst or burst comps.
吞吞則是坦度隨時間下降，所以適合速攻一點的隊伍
Khazard has a sad story as he used to bebest hero for pve after Mehira but with Zolrath furniture and more carries likeSaurus and Daimon, he lost relevance.
He is still essential for 6 team + stagesbut he will eventually fade out from that too as there will always be more goodcarries coming out than supports or tanks.
His freeze cc is useful and with Arthur canhave 100% crit. Its a sad reality but he goes from being an essential carry tojust being a flex that is used with Gwyneth team to stall a bit longer.
冰魔哭哭
冰魔曾經是在魅魔之下最好的pve英雄
但因為傢具普通又有更多更強的CARRY出現 像是蜥蜴跟呆萌，冰魔哭哭
當需要6隊以上時會用到冰魔，
但因為CARRY一直出，相對於輔助跟坦克而言CARRY失業率更高
他的冰凍控制很棒，配合亞瑟可以達到100%爆擊
所以他現在比較是作為一個控制角在光弓隊打工
Now this strat works but isn’t essentialfor most stages.
He works against heal heavy team due to hisreduction and slow damage but when Wu kong does similar damage to Khazard inthe right situations it becomes sad for Khazard.
His 60% debuff increase also being a veryunique and good ability can’t be abused that hard cause Khazard being sosquishy usually dies before it can be abused.
雖然在光弓隊打工效果本身不錯，但多數情況不是很需要這麼控
他的技能組很適合對付坦型的隊伍，但悟空也挺適合對付這類的敵人
他的增加DEBUFF效果很強，但他本體太脆了所以也不會讓這招過強
因為通常他活不了
冰魔哭哭
Conclusion:
結論
Athalia does better than Ezizh in multiplestages but Ezizh should still be the first ascended from the store as he isbetter for single stage battles in King’s tower, twisted realm etc.
阿塔&埃茲：
阿塔莉亞在後期需要多隊的時候表現優於埃茲，
但埃茲仍然是要優先練的，因為在單隊的時候及王座之塔、扭曲夢境等場合埃茲很強。
Flora is non-essential for most stages butsome stages as really hard without her so ignoring her is a bad move.
春姑：在多數場合都不是不可替換的英雄，但有些關卡他不可或缺，不要忽視他。
Wu kong: Quite versatile as a brawler whodoes good damage and tanks decently.
悟空：又痛又坦
Mezoth:Tanks twice as well as Wu kong for lower damage but a bit of cc.
吞魔：是悟空的兩倍坦，但傷害低一點，不過有控制技能
Orthros: Very unique skill set that can’tbe replaced and hence is essential for several comps.
時神：技能很特別且不可被取代，需要多隊伍時很實用
Zolrath: More of a utility hero with his +3FI than a dps for pve.
時魔：在PVE主要不是要他的傷害，而是需要他的3紅傢具技能(延後敵方進場0.75秒)
Khazard:Kinda sad but he lost relevance andwill only lose more relevance overtime with newer op carries being released inthe normal factions.
冰魔：有點可惜，後期有點冷門而且隨著新角OP度提高，他更冷門了..
Mehira:Tasi 2.0. Want another tasi formulti fights? BUILD HER!
魅魔：就是另一個塔西，有多隊伍需要塔西，就練魅魔!
Twins and Talene: Why would there even be aquestion to not build them?
雙子&火鳥：你怎麼會有疑惑要不要練雙子跟火鳥? 當然是必練阿
Priority:
優先度
CH STORE:
高端競技場商店
Ezizh>Athalia>Flora
埃茲>阿塔莉亞>春姑
LAB STORE:
迷宮商店只有悟空
Wu kong
STARGAZER:(For pve only)
推圖導向的占星
Talene>Twins>Mehira>Orthros>Zolrath>Mezoth>Khazard
火鳥>雙子>魅魔>時神>時魔>吞魔>冰魔
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